00:00.00 bizzyweb I Do it. 00:00.00 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Who crater. 00:00.40 Juliette Watt That's yes because I want this just and let you guys know I want this one fingers crossed everybody put the energy out somebody to pick this up and do like a limited Netflix series or streaming series because I think it would make a good one. Don't you. 00:13.46 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um, oh yeah, yeah, absolutely a good morning. 00:18.34 Juliette Watt Yes. 00:18.83 bizzyweb So ah, Dave hey good morning. How are you bud ah do number. Ah ah the the the Tv commercials for that dos a keys used to do about the most interesting man in the world I ah. 00:29.76 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Yes I do. 00:35.42 bizzyweb I am pretty sure that they are autobiographical and it wasn't a man as much as it was the most interesting woman in the world and I have found her So I I had been researching a topic called Compassion Fatigue and I found somebody who's an expert in it. 00:41.73 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb I Can't wait. Yeah. 00:41.95 Juliette Watt Ah, call. Ah. 00:54.15 bizzyweb And who has just had the most amazing ah life. So our guest today is Juliet Watt she is an inspiring author writers guild award winner. She has been nominated for a daytime emmy. She was a former Playboy bunny. And she is a compassion fatigue advocate and an animal rights advocate as ah, well as being a ted talk speaker and I yeah is the author of a book available on Amazon called in between the magic my life from the Playboy Club to beirut and beyond it is. 01:26.82 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Hi wow. 01:29.40 bizzyweb 1 of the most wild reads that I've ever seen. It's truly amazing guy. Hi Juliet thanks for joining all. 01:34.80 Juliette Watt Hi good morning. Thank you for having me. 01:38.36 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Yes, you. 01:39.14 bizzyweb I Had this really grand idea that we were going to have this really nice business related podcast and then I and and so I asked if you joined the show and then you sent me some of your materials and then it it it. There's layers upon layers upon Layers upon layers. So let's let's let's save the good stuff for. 01:52.78 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb You hit the difficulties. 01:57.41 bizzyweb Ah, but later and talk about the book later because what everybody needs to go out and buy the book immediately because it's on Amazon but what I what I wanted to start with is talking about what is compassion fatigue and and and why is it relevantlevance and so I think from a level setting standpoint. What. 02:01.60 Juliette Watt Group. Thank you. 02:12.57 Juliette Watt Um, who the. 02:16.60 bizzyweb I've experienced in my job and I think everybody has sort of experienced is more than likely half the world doesn't believe what you believe and they don't like you because you don't believe what they believe and everybody is entering the world like pennest and we're all extremely guarded and we're all extremely stressed. 02:18.47 Juliette Watt Are. 02:28.61 Juliette Watt Um, yes. 02:30.92 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Her. 02:34.82 bizzyweb And as a result we are all a little bit strung out which means that we're short. We're a little angry and we're not our best selves. 02:42.98 Juliette Watt Yeah I think we're plenty angry and we're plenty short and we're not our best selves because we don't feel good. Um I say we and I use that in the in the British Royal sense of the term I'm fine because I kind of get it. 02:47.88 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Is it. 02:57.00 Juliette Watt I get what's going on and I have gratitude that I don't have to spend the next forty years doing you know, coping with this. But yes, it's very sad. What's happened and I think um I think we've because the diversity started a while ago. Not that long ago. Um, without. Going into depth I think we had a change of monarchy here and all of a sudden life changed and and ah before that it was slightly I think Nine Eleven was actually a tipping point really and in my opinion. But yes, everybody is is angry. Because and they don't know here's the deal. They don't know why they're angry and I that I find that quite fascinating and they don't know why nothing is enough. You know and I tell everybody listen you know I'm taking the Ricky Jova's point on this, you're going to die and it doesn't matter. Just. 03:36.85 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And. 03:48.60 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb A. 03:54.30 Juliette Watt You know, have fun today because tomorrow it might all be over. We are all going to die and people get really upset with that they go. Why do you talk about death. It's a terrible thing. It's it's not a terrible thing. It's going to happen guys and um, let's have fun right. 04:05.44 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Who who. 04:09.46 bizzyweb So let's ah I told my wife ah hey I was gonna meet this expert on compassion fatigue and my wife is a school counsel high school counselor and she was like oh yeah I know I know all about that and then she proceeded probably all about it. So I know all about it but because my wife told me so. 04:14.70 Juliette Watt Um, yeah, yes, she would yes. 04:25.47 bizzyweb And I and I had ah there was a quiz but um for our listeners. Can you talk a little bit about what exactly is compassion fatigue. It's a real thing and it's a real. It's a real issue for a lot of people. 04:37.36 Juliette Watt Yes, and basically it it comes upon when you are a care take a caregiver um and you have decided that that. Ah either. You're taking care of a loved one at home. That is incapacitated an elderly parent a child. 04:53.38 bizzyweb All right hold on just one second hold hold on just one second you zoomed out to she she Zoom up. Yep so let's do let's let let's try that again. So. 05:00.92 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Yeah Internet broke up for just a second. So let's ah I was person. 05:00.97 Juliette Watt Great in. 05:07.73 bizzyweb Ah, Juliet can you it can just explain and level set for everybody what it really is compassion fatigue. 05:13.56 Juliette Watt It's an insidious syndrome that creeps up on you the basic definition of it is it is you have lost yourself in who you've had to become or who you've chosen to become for everybody else you have gone. Your identity your everything about you, You've lost yourself and it usually happens when um, you're looking after a loved one. That's perhaps elderly. That's perhaps Ill Terminally Ill Alzheimer's Dementia or you have a child that's physically challenged or your school teacher. Or a nurse or an emt or everybody who is in the business of giving care every day That's that's what they do and and we as humans are not built to tolerate that kind of stress at all nurses learn it nurses choose it. 06:07.22 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb 1 1 right. 06:07.38 Juliette Watt But Nevertheless like during Covid that was that was too much. It was like you dumped everything on top of these poor folk and they couldn't cope. There was a lot of suicides. There was a lot of and alcohol and drug abuse because you're trying to numb the pain of the misery of the life that you suddenly find yourself in. When it comes to being a nonprofessional then it's even worse I mean um, there you are for instance at home and you have an elderly parent or you have someone who's sick at home and you're having to administer drugs you're having to give them their Medication. You're not a doctor you're Putting. You know you may have to give something. 06:37.30 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb I. 06:46.82 Juliette Watt But by Needle the you're not then the stress of what if I do it wrong you you you have sacrificed who you are your dreams your hopes your job everything becomes secondary to the person you're looking after or in my case. My mother was perfectly healthy. There was absolutely nothing wrong with her but she had attached herself to me like a Leech and I was her life. Everything about me was my mother's life I didn't have my own life thus I didn't have my own identity thus when she died I went into a chronic Ptsd situation. Um, that I had to have immediate therapy for and and help because I was on the way down the black hole and didn't know why because I'm a pretty cheery chipper person and that all went away So My mother had drained me and I'd spent all those years being nothing. 07:41.52 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb You know. 07:43.34 Juliette Watt And that's what happens compassion fatigue is basically trauma you are traumatized and and it is really that if that makes sense to you guys. 07:51.31 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb You want? absolutely. 07:55.65 bizzyweb And it's not just a physical it. It can. It's like you talked about with your mother. It's ah it's It's mentally caretaking with people too. 07:59.50 Juliette Watt Mental or yes, my mother was a narcissist and everything had to be done for her with her everything that was adverse was done to her by mean people. Everybody else was to blame. She was faultless and and with narcissism it's it's it's another devious thing that usually happens it's in here somewhere because you know we're not, We're not taught how to take care of somebody and a parent or someone older than you. That's not that's not what we're here for I didn't choose my parent I didn't choose to take care of her but the narcissism that she had was what's called Covert Narcissism and that is when it's the victimization look you have to look after me if you go out and I don't know where you are well then. I'm something might happen to and it goes on and on and on you know what? I'm saying right. 08:55.31 bizzyweb Yeah, where where where where she says you what? what do you want for dinner and she she you know she knows exactly what she wants for dinner but she's not going to tell you because you should You should. 08:55.91 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb A. 09:03.84 Juliette Watt Yeah, oh damn right? and my mother just a quick funny story. My mother used to have this terrible habit of telling me that she was going to commit suicide because she was in England and I was in America done my best to kind of put some distance here. Forget about it. There's a telephone you're dead you have the phone you know. 09:06.24 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And. 09:21.70 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um, a here a. 09:22.00 Juliette Watt And she would constantly tell me I'm going to commit suicide and ah she said I'm going to put my head in the gas oven. Well then um in england they did a very smart thing and I don't remember exactly the time maybe in the 80 s or so eab was in the 80 s they they made the gas in the gas do nontoxic. 09:39.95 bizzyweb The. 09:41.75 Juliette Watt And so I said well mom. There's the gas stove out you better kind of think of something else because that's not going to be ah I had to I had to make it funny I mean really you know. 09:45.77 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Wall here in right. 09:52.97 bizzyweb Yeah, what? What are some of the what? what are the symptoms Some of the symptoms that people get when they they get can recognize of having this the sort of fatigue and then that losing themselves. 10:04.33 Juliette Watt Ah yes, um, fatigue Chronic Fatigue a lack of caring about yourself. Hence you don't care how you look ah your weight usually goes up or down you start drinking. 10:06.66 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb A. 10:22.00 Juliette Watt Bit too much taking that odd you know sleeping medication bit too much you start distancing yourself from other people you isolate and that's a really really very prominent thing that isn't recognized by. Anybody else, but you isolate you don't want to go out people say oh you want to come out for a drink. We'll come out for it. No I'm good. Thank you I've got to look after Mom I've got to look after dot dot dot then that which is killing you becomes the excuse for you continuing to sink further into the compassion Fatigue vortex. 10:58.18 bizzyweb Absolutely yeah. 10:58.36 Juliette Watt Does that make sense and you completely Isolate. You don't care what you're wearing and and you disappear and I've had because I do a lot of coaching and I've had a lot of clients say to me you know I don't know who I am and I go well who were you because you're that person who were you when you were 14 Oh I was da da dada and they go on about all these different things and what they wanted it to be and I said well how about we start from there you know, um, this was done basically to you because you know we have this sense of duty don't we we have to I mean if somebody needs your help. Well we have to go and help. 11:31.27 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Yeah. 11:36.19 Juliette Watt Even if it's detrimental to ourselves. No one says no no one knows how to say no I do I have no problem with that. You know. 11:45.92 bizzyweb Yeah I find in my life and I've said this I think I probably even said this to Dave at one point is that I have 4 main roles. Ah husband wife employee no wait I'm not a wife let me back up I let me i. 11:56.77 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb I was I was just thinking I heard something new about or learned something new about Tribu today. Okay, husband father there. 12:02.62 bizzyweb I Give you that better? Um, ah husband. Ah, yeah, hopefully will will edit that it will yeah husband father there. It is father father son and employeeee and any any given time I'm doing one of those badly. 12:07.19 Juliette Watt Are we transmissioning sorry. 12:17.68 Juliette Watt You're not doing it badly. It's too much for you. It's too much. That's what that's what the problem is you've taken on too much as to have everybody else and I note I don't do that anymore I used to and I know exactly yes, you are titled all those things but you come first. 12:18.20 bizzyweb Yeah, yeah. 12:25.74 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb F. 12:33.92 Juliette Watt You yourself come above all of them. It isn't that shocking. You know what? I mean when I said that when I said that in the Ted talk 3000 people went silent your children come second. Oh my god it was as if I said go home and kill them all. But but you do. 12:35.70 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Man hang. 12:48.75 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um, right. 12:51.30 Juliette Watt You do come first because what use are you if you're depressed if you're drinking if you're you're unhealthy I mean what use are you to anybody? you've got to put yourself first and they all come after you and if they need you to do something that is adverse to you. 12:56.70 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And Fred. 13:08.10 Juliette Watt Or is going to really, you don't want to do it. Don't do it. 13:10.61 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Well that checks out in real life to Juliette because yeah, even like when you're getting on a plane they say to you know if if the oxygen mass drops down you had to have to a fix yours before you take care of your family right? So yeah. 13:26.60 Juliette Watt That's of great example. Dave Brilliant brilliant example 13:29.48 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb So as as we look at this for compassion fatigue and again our audience is is generally business folks. How do you handle folks like can you spot compassion fatigue in your team or in in people that you know and how do you recommend that? We go about either helping. 13:35.72 Juliette Watt Yes. 13:43.61 Juliette Watt West. 13:49.44 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Others or raising our hands ourselves if we know of compassion fatigue in the workplace. 13:54.42 Juliette Watt World those are 2 very good questions. First of all, we have to care we have to care about our co-workers we have to pay attention. You know is so and so who's always been kind of chatty and pretty vibrant. Are they getting quiet. Are they ah. 13:55.45 bizzyweb Yes. 13:57.21 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Right here. 14:05.54 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And meaning. 14:12.24 Juliette Watt Are they getting staying at work too long. Are they staying late consistently. Um, do they look like they're maybe not taking care of themselves So well. Ah is you know when you ask them how they are and they tell you they're all right. You can really feel it I mean we're very. 14:14.28 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Here. 14:27.23 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Or and. 14:30.10 Juliette Watt Instinctive. We've almost lost that but we're we're animals. Let's face it and their instinct you can feel if you're a sensitive empathic person you can feel in another human if they if something's off and take them for a cup of tea take them for a drink say listen, you're not feeling like you normally do when I have a chat. 14:36.70 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And in this. 14:45.50 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um, and and. 14:49.30 Juliette Watt And you'll be surprised just that 1 act of kindness which is another thing that's missing an act of kindness keep an eye on your fellow workers and just pay attention. Get out of yourself. You know, um, give. 14:52.88 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb A. 15:03.80 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Here. 15:05.20 Juliette Watt And and and if you do feel that strain of work and if you do feel that you're getting overloaded go and do something where you're giving to somebody else which sounds go volunteer at an animal shelter at a anywhere. Go do something for somebody else. Go do a soup kitchen deal right. 15:22.51 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Absolutely yeah. 15:25.19 Juliette Watt Um, but you have to get out of yourself. You have to get out of yourself and and pay attention to what's going on around you and and that's how you care for your fellow worker. Um I believe that's what I would do I go ah so so doesn't look right today I wonder. 15:37.91 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And I hope. 15:41.19 Juliette Watt And they'll vehemently deny it of course. But then if you care and you're kind you know you'll find somebody suddenly burst into tears and all of a sudden there you have it. You know people are afraid to open up to other people. People don't want to go up and go listen. Can we chat? Um, they don't do that anymore. They did. 15:44.84 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb A. The making it. Okay, you know. 16:00.20 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um, right. 16:00.27 Juliette Watt Years ago, but they don't do that anymore because no one's supposed to see anybody else in pain because or suffering because they may lose their job. The boss may think oh, they're not competent because they're having troubles. You know what? I'm saying that is teachers to to. 16:08.50 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um, right of course and oh my yeah. 16:18.21 Juliette Watt To to talk about teachers for a minute. Yeah um I interviewed or I I interviewed ah quite a bunch of teachers and asked them if I could possibly understand why they had compassion fatigue and they said Nope We're not telling you because if we tell you we have it. 16:36.86 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb No mind me. 16:37.48 Juliette Watt We will be fired. We will be considered ah inact at our job same with nurses I had one nurse tell me really on the qt and only because she was my friend that she dealt with 14 drug addicts an hour and seven days a week. 16:52.66 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Oh my goodness. Yeah me. 16:55.73 Juliette Watt Couldn't she they knew it New Jersey and she said I can't tell you that on the record I'll be fired and teachers were my real eye opener. They refused to speak to me, you are right? yes. 16:58.54 bizzyweb Yeah. 17:03.17 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And. 17:06.12 bizzyweb Yeah, teaching is is no longer is no longer teaching. It's it's customer service. So it it my job I'm had a sales at busy web. So my job is to sell ah ah to help fix a problem. So a you know. 17:21.33 Juliette Watt Now right. 17:23.44 bizzyweb Juliet we need to build you a new website here are the reasons why let's talk 1 on one but we're asking teachers is essentially to do my job but not do it one on one but do it with 30 people. All of whom have. 17:32.19 Juliette Watt Right. 17:35.83 bizzyweb People behind them who will then tell you how you're not understanding how their particular with their one particular individual needs aren't being met and how bad you are at your job because you haven't helped them. 17:44.10 Juliette Watt Um, absolutely turn. 17:48.93 bizzyweb Yeah, ah achieve their dreams even though the individual person hasn't done any of the work or actually done any sort ah hasn't engaged with you in any sort of way but yet. 17:51.62 Juliette Watt Um, yeah. 17:55.90 Juliette Watt Exactly exactly my but my mother came to my school one time 1 time and that was only because she was summoned by the principal and all he wanted to do was tell her how useless I was and in math particular there was no hope for me. 18:11.36 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And. 18:13.33 Juliette Watt In the real world I could never never hold down a job I was useless I was too noisy I was too dramatic I was too this too this to this and my mother said well she's autistic and this was one of those times you know as a lot of our narcissists do suddenly they'll show this amazing side to themselves and she said to the Principal she said well my child. Is artistic So to hell with you and walked out. That's the only time my mother ever had anything to do with my education. She never came to the school I walked to school I walked home alone I mean I watch these parents going at school as much as they damn kids interfering. 18:39.42 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um, yeah. 18:51.16 Juliette Watt And that didn't happen when when I was a kid you went to school and that was you were gone to school parents didn't go to school ever. 18:57.15 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb A. 18:58.00 bizzyweb Um, I think one of one of the things that I think ah um, a lot of times if you're in a service-based business you you get? is you get clients. Yeah, everybody wants to have. A relationship based business when you see this all the time I read websites all the time people say oh you know the difference maker for us is our relationships and I think that's certainly true at busy whip too. We you know who we are as people it matters and so as a result of that I think. 19:14.21 Juliette Watt Yeah, ripe. Right. 19:27.21 bizzyweb You know we come to an agreement with say Okay, here's the work We're going to do for you and then we're gonna keep doing this every month and then sometimes people get what I I call a case that the can't adjusts Well can't you just do this. Can't you just do that and can't you just it's it's It's so simple. Can't can't can't you just do all. 19:28.46 Juliette Watt Right. 19:35.60 Juliette Watt Are. 19:42.90 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Right? And that's corporate and our but narcissism right. 19:46.60 bizzyweb And yeah, it's it's it's it's it's a micro aggression of I want I'm wanting. Ah, even though we have a clearly defined relationship I Want a little bit more give me a little bit more but I don't want to pay for it I want you to give it to me. So. 19:50.12 Juliette Watt Um, yes, oh yes, it is yes. 19:54.67 Juliette Watt Yes, always yes, that's right, that's right? And yes, yes, these people that work 14 hours a day by choice I don't get it. There were the those. 20:00.36 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb E. 20:07.26 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And. 20:11.23 Juliette Watt Remaining however, many hours after 8 they don't get paid for why? Well I've got to get my work done. Why get it done when you get it done and well I'll get fired if not and they're usually right and that's a that's a tragedy. 20:13.30 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb If and. 20:22.85 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Right. 20:23.20 bizzyweb Yeah, yeah, and so you mentioned you're an expert at saying no to people which I think is you know clear after 20 minutes of recording what? what are some ways in which people can politely. 20:28.51 Juliette Watt What's happened. 20:41.49 bizzyweb Take back their own identity while also creating a boundary. 20:46.34 Juliette Watt Well really think yes, um, of course it of course it depends on the scenario. Um, ah in the work environment I think saying no done diplomatically is a matter of relationship. So as Dave said. 20:49.90 bizzyweb Um, yeah. 21:01.58 Juliette Watt Try and establish a relationship with your boss whereupon you go listen I'm 1 human being I love my job I really love what I'm doing I can do my job much better if I don't stretch myself so thin I'm so tired that I'm a cranky mess is there a way we can work together. 21:11.58 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Who. 21:19.86 Juliette Watt So that that doesn't happen I can't do 14 hour days but I can't be afraid of my job because I can't do 14 hours a day now if you have a boss that doesn't want anything to do with you doesn't want to have that conversation. Yeah, maybe you're in the wrong job just a thought at home. 21:33.83 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb 2 21:37.60 Juliette Watt If you have a situation at home where you are worn ragged. You've gone to work all day. You've come home. You've had to cook dinner. You've had to look after the kids you've got husband coming in expecting this that and the other and you are 1 big rag you have got to say there is going to be one day this week where you make your own dinner. You take care of yourselves. 21:54.53 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Heard. 21:56.65 Juliette Watt I'm going out with my friends and maintain your friendships with your friends Even if it's by phone until you can actually get to see them take yourself away and say to them. No this is what I need I need this to be able to do my job here at home and take care of you guys? no. 22:10.86 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb 3 22:15.31 Juliette Watt I am not going to do this seven days a week so what are they all going to do pack up and move doubt it I I doubt you're going to get fired from home. Do you know what? I'm saying but they want I know take take put yourself first. 22:19.43 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And. 22:23.55 bizzyweb I I did. 22:33.49 Juliette Watt Before everybody and not in a mean way, you know what? I mean if if mom's choking and asraating. Well, of course you're gonna go help. You're gonna no, it's my actually my day off I'm not supposed to be here supposed to be in the movies. You didn't know what I mean within reason but but you have to put yourself first. It's imperative. Otherwise you go into burnout and burnout is bad. That's when you drink take drugs and the most important thing of all you start to not care. You don't care about the person you're looking after I forgot their drugs who gives a shit you know what? I'm saying I don't care anymore. 22:53.90 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Any. 23:01.39 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And right here. 23:09.89 bizzyweb I Think this begs an interesting question. What's the difference between Burnout and compassion fatigue is it I told. 23:10.62 Juliette Watt Um, done taken. 23:17.62 Juliette Watt Burnout is the result Burnout is the result of compassion for fatigue going on too long. It's when you don't care and and that's when you'll start to feel it when you feel you started not that you definitely not cared about yourself for a long time. 23:21.19 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb The. 23:33.62 Juliette Watt But when you don't care about whatever it is your job when you don't care about doing a good job anymore. You're just looking at the clock where you don't care about looking after that person at homebeat your child your parent your whomever or nobody in any state of distress just home. You've gone to work 8 hours you've come home now you've got to do the dinner. You've got to maybe go get the kids I mean I see these poor women that used to look fabulous that look like a wreck because it's all about the children I mean and and don't get me started on that topic I mean children have way too much power today and I'm sorry. 24:01.00 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Name. 24:10.46 Juliette Watt I Just think they run the house and my God yes. 24:11.90 bizzyweb I agree I live with this little thing that he wants food daily clothes all the time and oh God it's a whole. 24:16.26 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um. 24:20.32 Juliette Watt I'd have no teeth darling I'd have no teeth if I had spoken my mother even a tenth of the way I hear kids speak to their mother today when my mother said something and if I said no I got clipped on the ear I never said no I never said why ever. 24:29.83 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb A. 24:35.14 bizzyweb Yeah. 24:37.20 Juliette Watt I mean but you know we're in a different age so we have to deal with today and how to cope with today. 24:40.15 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Right. 24:43.35 bizzyweb And I think that that that's such a fascinating problem is that nobody really knows how to clearly say no because that yeah. 24:49.38 Juliette Watt No this fear and it's only fear that's the only thing that stops them saying no is they're scared. You know when people say to you? Well I'm scared of hurting another person's feeding ball Hickey. 24:49.84 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Right? 5 25:02.70 Juliette Watt It's not that they're scared of hurting another feed people's feelings. They're scared that if what they say obsesss the other person. The other person may not like them anymore. That's what they don't want. They don't want to feel bad does that make sense. 25:09.36 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Right. 25:10.72 bizzyweb And it and it cost them likes and it costs them thumbs up on on the socials and things like that because the the alternative the the flip side of this is people are more than likely to torture you online if it's an um. 25:15.20 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb That. 25:24.56 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And. 25:24.66 Juliette Watt Yeah, yeah, yeah. 25:27.29 bizzyweb I had ah I had a interaction with ah a colleague in a different city who had ah ah a very nice.. He had a written a very nice essay about something that he experienced and I respectfully disagreed and I wrote a couple of points that I thought were constructive and I. But still said hey you have a lot of validity here and here's what I think is differently and then this guy other guy that I don't even know came over the top and said he it was the most fascinating thing he said I'm not picking on you personally, but and then he listed I think 3 things that I had to look up. 26:00.37 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Yeah, yeah. 26:02.17 bizzyweb That he called me that. 26:02.48 Juliette Watt Now isn't that interesting I'm not I'm not making this personal but I am because I'm talking to you about you and that's how that that's that's that's a sort of a passive aggressive defense system. So like I'm about to tell you some really things that will really upset you. But. 26:09.22 bizzyweb Right. 26:09.36 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Having. 26:21.91 Juliette Watt I'm not actually telling you I'm saying them but they're not to you but I'm hoping to God you recognize them as what I'm saying you have what I have right. 26:23.43 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um, right. 26:28.23 bizzyweb Yeah, and and so my response I just kind of let it go because I thought it was funny because I had to look up all the words that he was using to describe me it at that point I will see. 26:37.83 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Right? right? and I I thought that interaction it was. It was very interesting trig me and I think you handled it great. Ah Juliet I think for your history is one of the things that really I'm I'm assuming has helped you to. 26:39.54 Juliette Watt Um, it's fear. Yeah, so. 26:42.77 bizzyweb I. 26:54.44 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Creates this body of work around compassion fatigue. But I don't want to undersell how absolutely intensely fascinating Your life has been and I'm sure that's part of where you picked up the the options or the tools or the ways to do that. So. 26:57.82 Juliette Watt Yes. 27:04.23 bizzyweb No change. 27:13.52 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb You know writer for Abc television on a soap opera you know daytime emmy nomination you know flight flight. Um airline airline pilot master flight instructor worked worked in Beirut Play boy bunny yeah ah all these things. 27:30.12 bizzyweb I read in the book you were engaged to Cat Stevens for a while. 27:30.41 Juliette Watt Um, right. 27:32.23 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb You know and engaged to Cat Stevens for wow me my goodness. What what were the inflection points in your life that really or you know maybe a couple that that helped you spark this and that have wound up being. 27:38.55 Juliette Watt Um, yes. 27:50.19 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb The the way that you found your path forward. 27:52.37 Juliette Watt I Actually think I have my mother to thank because you know when you're left with I have my mother to thank and my dad because I have his genes. Thank the good lord but I have this and I always have had this innate sense of of survival I Know how to survive and I don't complain and I don't winge. 28:09.85 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb It. 28:11.60 Juliette Watt And all so I have a mother that's supposed to be a mother that isn't a mother so that came to me pretty quick that I was kind of sort of on my own and and that's why I left school at 15 forged my birth certificate to go and work at the Playboy Club because if I hadn't we'd be on the streets now this is back in the sixty s guys when debtors prison in England. 28:14.35 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Mean thrive. 28:25.86 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Wow. 28:31.51 Juliette Watt Still very much enforced and so mother would have gone to prison and and we would have been homeless and being homeless in England in the sixty s I got to tell you was pretty rough that wasn't going to happen so I thought and I started plotting and I saw the advertisement boom I went in my mother actually being. 28:39.52 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Here. 28:46.80 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb The head. 28:50.70 Juliette Watt Every now and again brilliant altered my birth certificate to read I was 2 years older than I indeed was so I was 15 when I like the playboy clever and I should have been seventeen because of there was alcohol there and dealing card casinos and get it so there that began it. 28:52.77 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Wow right. 29:07.10 Juliette Watt And there was a point during when I was training to be a casino bunny where ah my math as we as we know by being told I was useless I really was useless because I didn't care I didn't care about math. What a pointless subject and I had to do math to learn how to be a casino dealer and I couldn't. 29:14.20 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb F. 29:24.74 Juliette Watt And this 1 gentleman who changed my life. He showed me how to read pictures in the numbers on the on the on the roulette table rather than count and told my life one human I never saw him again after I worked there but just I thought well I can do this I can actually do this. 29:33.36 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Oh ah. 29:34.24 bizzyweb Ah. 29:39.16 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Are. 29:43.26 Juliette Watt And and it just fueled that I can do anything if I have to or even if I don't have to and so from then on Dave what happened was this this incredible instinct of survival and I can do anything I am capable and humans are we are capable of extraordinary. 29:45.25 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Who. 29:53.60 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb A. 30:02.60 Juliette Watt And that's that's why my life because it went the way it did and honestly I didn't choose for it to go that way I Really really I went to beirut to have fun not being a war. Do you know what? I'm saying and that kind of came along. It was like oh darn kind of but ah. 30:05.89 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And. Yeah, yeah for a full. 30:13.45 bizzyweb Ah, okay. 30:17.25 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Right. 30:20.32 Juliette Watt Yes I think it's it's when you have no parenting when you have no guidelines you have nothing and you either do 1 of 2 things you become a victim and end up on the streets or you did what I did and go to hell with it I am going to battle through all of this. 30:22.46 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Okay. 30:32.73 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Or so. 30:37.29 Juliette Watt And ah 1 thing after another, you know the liege situation thing that was hell no, he's not getting away with this I'm going to go find his ass and I am going to bring him to justice which I did and he went to prison for 15 years when I got abducted by the arabs. 30:40.10 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And. 30:56.23 Juliette Watt To be taken away to parts unknown because back in the early 70 s Abu Dhabi and Qatar and all the places were dust with tents. You disappeared you young english girls would disappear so I got myself out of that because I was tricked to go there by a friend. 30:59.94 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Here here. 31:15.59 Juliette Watt And um, you know I may have killed the guy I honestly truthfully don't know. But again there I am stuck in this hotel in Switzerland and I absolutely know why I'm there and I'm like damned if I'm going to this is going to happen I got 24 hours think 31:19.10 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Are are are. 31:31.84 Juliette Watt And so rather than go Oh God This has happened to me I was about to be whisked away forever. So what do you do get whised away forever and become the victim and live a life of absolute horror and misery or do something you know and and I think I don't know. 31:37.23 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Here. 31:45.91 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Here. 31:51.83 Juliette Watt I mean it's just the way I think the way I feel even till today I decided I would do a ted talk everybody. What do you and do a ted talk about Playboy I said no I found this topic and I said I'm going to do it in six months and I did everybody goes oh what's more brilliant and then bullshit I'm not brilliant. That's the whole thing. 31:55.49 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb It. 31:59.35 bizzyweb Thank for. 32:00.95 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Hey. 32:04.40 bizzyweb Yeah. 32:11.67 Juliette Watt You just decide and it's the same thing with your clients. You know your your listeners in in their job if you want to be promoted if you want to end up one day as Ceo you can just do it make a plan make a path make a a real direction for yourself. 32:13.86 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um, right? Ah right. 32:21.89 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Right. 32:29.48 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And I have. 32:31.52 Juliette Watt And just follow it and do it don't yeah sorry. 32:33.37 bizzyweb I I know I want to talk about the book because I I think the book is extraordinary. It's called in in between the magic and it's available on Amazon you can buy it. It's been out for a couple of months now um a a 32:33.81 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb I Love it. 32:50.48 bizzyweb Words can't words are I'm but I really I Really don't know how to begin So let's maybe try this. Let's let's maybe try doing this a little bit of a lightning mound So tell me. 32:53.62 Juliette Watt Or man doesn't know where to begin. Ah. 32:56.27 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um. 33:03.11 bizzyweb Ah, tell me I'm gonna list off what I think is just amazing life things and tell me whether and and not this this is happened to you. Ah, you were a stunt writer ah wrote for a soap opera ah you. 33:13.21 Juliette Watt Um, yes, yes, yes. 33:21.20 bizzyweb Are a pilot you once you, you once were on stage the same night as Jay Leno and David Letterman 33:30.80 Juliette Watt No, ah, not exactly I was working um I wasn't working I was well I was working but for no money um at the Improviser Improv Club in Los Angeles and this was in 1976 33:44.97 Juliette Watt And I would be my slot to go on and sing was seven o'clock ah Jay's slot was nine o'clock Robin Williams his slot was another time David led him. Um we all sat at the bar waiting for our slots to go on and in those days. Maybe some of your older listeners will remember people like Don Rickles and Tom Dresden They were the guys who were the headliners and the whole deal was to get on Johnny Carson but they they know David and Jay Leno and all those guys who don't know me today but but they were skinny starving. 34:03.10 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And then. 34:08.73 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Sure. 34:17.85 Juliette Watt Comedians and I loved them dearly because they have the hardest job in the world I was a singer so there was no chance I was going on Johnny but but the johnnys scouts were there every night the improv was an extraordinary place. Mr. Bird Friedman god bless him yeah just he ran the best the best. So that's. 34:20.11 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Heard. 34:30.80 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb It just. 34:35.54 Juliette Watt Sort of on stage but not with them sitting at the bar actually where I was. 34:39.90 bizzyweb Chapter 8 is called helter skelter did you did you connect with the man family at a point in your life. Oh good I haven't gotten that for you yet I've been jumping around because the the the table of contents Dave let me see if I can entice you to buy a copy of her book is this is. 34:44.28 Juliette Watt No, did you read the chapter. 34:49.26 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb If that. 34:54.11 Juliette Watt I Got to get the book out haven't I just find out what you were talking about. Okay. 34:56.15 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb There It is yes. 34:58.78 bizzyweb But let me say what chapter 8 is Helter Skelter chapter 12 is behind the iron curtain chapter 14 is 1969 cabaret in Cairo ah chapter 18 gun running and spiders. Ah. 35:03.67 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Hold gray. 35:07.89 Juliette Watt Yeah, that's pretty funny. 35:12.61 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb John only and spiders. Okay. 35:16.54 bizzyweb But chapter 26 la vigilante which I'm assuming is a french cap burglar of some kind of. 35:20.41 Juliette Watt No la vilante is the situation in Belgium in in Liege Belgium where I was raped battling and I found the guy I walked the streets for two weeks with my friend. The bartender. 35:31.21 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb No no. 35:39.18 Juliette Watt We found the guy he was a pimp brought him to justice which was difficult because it was Belgium and it's a different judicial system that I did and um I managed to represent myself in court in french which was kind of in a miracle and he got 15 years and 35:44.34 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Moved. 35:55.53 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Is now. 35:58.41 Juliette Watt When the that night we were finished with I was supposed to go home on the next day on the train. Nobody knew I was there I'd lied to everybody in London I was too embarrassed to tell anybody and my friend Michelle the bartender came to the front door to pick me up to take me to the airport and he held up the newspaper and it said La Vi Gilante and it was a whole article about me how I had literally you know, ah been the spokesperson for all the artists. the strippers the the singers the nightclub workers everybody in liege who had no voice who they were hurt or repeated and they had nowhere to go the police wouldn't leave or listen to them. 36:25.56 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And. 36:32.39 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And. 36:35.79 Juliette Watt And I had sort of done that for them and that's why that's called La Visualante because you know what I left that damn newspaper behind why because I didn't want my mother to see it. That's how bad it was I should have it here right now hanging on my wall and I don't and I could kick myself. 36:43.29 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Mean. 36:51.56 bizzyweb Whole yeah so deep end into the pool stuff. Um like keep keeping going on that just on the chapter list. Ah um, ah, chapter 34 is us off islam ah chapter 38 meet the white wizard which like I don't even know what that means but I want to I want to. 37:00.80 Juliette Watt Um, yes. 37:05.44 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um, ah. 37:08.81 Juliette Watt Um, who. 37:09.27 bizzyweb Here is $20 and let and send me the add to cart. 37:13.31 Juliette Watt Ah, the white wizard is actually it's um, it's my version of cocaine. It's what I call cocaine that was um, not me that was my time in Los Angeles when my darling roommate sandra. Ah. 37:13.68 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um, but just accept the. 37:16.79 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb A. 37:27.71 Juliette Watt Would ah, we would be up at the Playboy Mansion Hefness Playboy Mansion every day and as I as I was telling you guys earlier you know I saw nothing I I absolutely saw nothing probably because I was evainly hostile you know, rabunctuous and ah. 37:34.52 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And then. 37:42.81 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Right? Well so something tells me you you don't have victims stamped on your forehead you have I'm about to make my way. Yeah, yeah. 37:45.80 Juliette Watt Yeah I Really don't no I have renegade. Yeah, and I have renegade stamped on me which people like coffeeby and have how they I want to mess with that. They just don't so I used to have a good time I would chat everybody makes some really good friends and um. 37:49.63 bizzyweb Um, yeah, yeah. 37:54.78 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Is music. 38:02.83 Juliette Watt You know the celebrities that were up there that were nice like Robert Colp and and Peter Lawford and some of these extraordinary fellows. We became great friends I never went near carsby because he hated me as dead others but there was one evening in particular that always stands out in my memory which is what that chapter is written around. Um. 38:11.24 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb This is living. 38:21.56 Juliette Watt Everybody would stay late and that's when the shenanigans would go on and I would go home and 1 evening I was walking through the hall the big you know hallway to the front door and I looked to my left of the dining room and I saw Jim Belushi with his head in a plate of cocaine. 38:35.45 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Oh my? yeah. 38:37.75 Juliette Watt And he was just hanging over it literally hanging over the plate and I don't know something touched me ah because I just felt this incredible urge that maybe I could help and I went in and I sat beside him and I said Mr Belushi and he said Jim. And and he just stared and he was just scooping this stuff into his and there was a mouth and it was a I mean it was a plate and I sat there and I knew there was nothing I could do and I thought should I call somebody who am I going to call what am I gonna say ah Jimm Polllution's got his head in it. No, that's not going to work. 39:01.31 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Oh my goodness. 39:07.35 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb New here is. 39:12.98 bizzyweb Well to be can be to be clear clear I'm I'm pretty sure you're talking about John belui because Jim Belu she's running for running for senate but it probably make clear that we're talking about brother son. 39:13.55 Juliette Watt And I watched this poor man and job blooming. Oh no no yeah we're talking we're talking about the actor John Beluian the comedian 39:24.62 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb There's a headline that we will. yeah John okay yeah I love it. Yeah right. 39:30.24 bizzyweb Umlu you all right? Jimlu shoot Yeah, she and I know we're not sorry up with apologies to the campaign you did? Yeah, yeah yeah. 39:34.28 Juliette Watt Ah, yes, yes, indeed. Um, did I say Jim did I really say that I'm turned because he's got a brother called Jim that's probably you know and so yes and and and so I got up and and went home and I'll never forget that night and then. 39:41.44 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Yes, he does? Yeah yeah. 39:51.39 Juliette Watt Bless his heart when he died a short time after it just broke my heart because I still thought to myself. What could I have done nothing I could have done nothing and because cocaine in those days was ridiculous. It was everywhere. There were bowls of it all over the place you know and it's nasty stuff. Nasty. 39:54.73 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb In right. He is thinking. 40:08.33 bizzyweb Well I think that circles back to the original topic of because I think that's a question that a lot of people have is is is what do I do? Why can't I get these people to do what I want and I think ultimately in reading your extraordinary book and learning from you is that you. You can't and it's a fundamental life Lesson is the only person you really are in control of is yourself. 40:28.81 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Yeah, right, you need to take care of yourself. 40:32.59 Juliette Watt yes yes I mean yes, you have to like when I was in beirut I did go there for it to have a good time I went there and I was working as a singer and it was all lovely and there was lots of english girls there. This would be 1973 um, and. We were having a grand old time and I remember clearly I mean american excuse me american tourists would come there a lot and ah all of a sudden overnight everything changed because I looked out of my window one morning and and I saw these israeli airplanes about two hundred feet off the water. Because I lived by the water by the ocean and I thought well I know that flag and that really shouldn't be here I mean there was a lot of palestinians living in Lebanon in Beirut in ghettos which is a whole you'll read in the book I I do my very best. To explain the conflict that happened back there in 72 between Israel Palestine. It was nasty because originally when Israel took over the country. All the palestinians became refugees and a lot of them came to live in Beirut and and there was so you can imagine a lot of very angry people. 41:39.60 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And and more. 41:41.35 Juliette Watt Were kind of good friends with the russians and got lots of machine guns and it was it was a brew of trouble that the lebanese government just put a lid on. They didn't want to see it so they put them in ghettos and none of us knew what we knew they were there but we didn't want to go near them because they were nasty people and. The lid blew off one day because what they did was Yasa Arafat decided that excuse me, he would start lobbing grenades and bombs from beirut over to Israel. He thought that was a fine idea and Israel said ah no and came over and civil war began. And I was right in the middle of it that was actually um before that I was running guns up the mountain to the militia up ah up and the mountain called zale. 42:28.21 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um, fifty fifty 42:30.27 bizzyweb We're just gonna stop this and you know you get you? You're gonna come to Minneapolis and we're just gonna hang out because you you can't just throw that in with 3 minutes to go on a podcast all that time you remember that time I was running guns up the mountain you're killing it Julia youre kill what. 42:36.33 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um. 42:40.61 Juliette Watt Maybe we have to do another podcast. Um, maybe we'll have to do part 2 of the podcast. 42:44.56 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb This is great I like it I like it. 42:46.55 bizzyweb Ah, like I Yes I think if you want us to bring her back and because I certainly need need to hear more about and finish the book. 42:53.32 Juliette Watt There is a lot more dave Actually if you want to do part two and I can assure you my darling. It will not be boring and it will be helpful to your listeners who by now are probably dizzy reaching for the scotch. 42:56.71 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb I Think that would be marvelous. 43:05.00 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb I love it? Yes, yes, well no, this is wonderful. So to to kind of to kind of bring it home and as we go through? um I think Julia you, you've got an absolutely fascinating story and the the. 43:06.45 bizzyweb Um I work I got nothing man. You got to take over feel I I'm do being we take for the scotch here I have ah. 43:16.78 Juliette Watt Um, yeah. 43:23.10 Juliette Watt Um, thank you. 43:24.73 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb My favorite part for our audience for sure is that you've taken everything that you've done and that you've learned and that you've and you've experienced and you've captured that into a message that goes in large part in order to. 43:29.61 Juliette Watt Yes. 43:43.38 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Move forward in your life. You have to look out for yourself and as we look at this and as we are you know business owners or managers you need to look out for the common signs of compassion fatigue. 43:45.56 Juliette Watt Yes. 43:53.39 Juliette Watt Yes, yes. 44:00.99 Juliette Watt Yes. 44:03.21 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb And you need to make sure that you know people are burning out and it doesn't take a whole lot. It just takes a little bit of compassion and just thinking about yourself and about others in order to break that cycle. 44:12.79 Juliette Watt Kindness. Yes. 44:18.55 Juliette Watt Yes, thinking about others being just aware of of how another person might be feeling. You know if somebody says something to you and you take Offencese at it Well hang on a minute. Maybe they're not having a good day. Maybe something really awful is going on at home I mean try. 44:24.31 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Are. 44:32.97 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Right? we. 44:35.92 Juliette Watt And get out of your own. Oh well I'm offended try and think what's happening you know with them and we don't do that. But this is not the trait of today to think about others. It's a me me me and myself. 44:40.97 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb That right, right? right? Yes and I think that's exactly where it needs where where it is and if you are careful in. Protecting yourself while extending your hand to others and and understanding that and realizing that we're in a complicated world and so anything that we can do to help each other out is going to help you and your business and. 45:01.40 Juliette Watt Yes. 45:06.72 Juliette Watt Yes, yes, well said they Yes, yeah, you might actually be happy for God's sakes. 45:15.91 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb If you do it right? You might have some fascinating stories to share. Yeah yeah, oh my goodness. Yeah. 45:16.71 bizzyweb 2 45:21.37 Juliette Watt But I do think you might like the gun running up the Lebanese Mountain Story You might enjoy that. 45:26.48 bizzyweb Yeah, well we'll we'll have you back for part 2 and we'll we'll start with gun running and lebanese gun running. Um 1 last question at Juliet with all this happening to you and your extraordinary life. What what is next for you. 45:32.60 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Um. 45:34.70 Juliette Watt Um, ah yes. 45:43.60 Juliette Watt Oh um, well right now I ride horses I'm competing on in competition on horses and my next thing is if I can get if I can get this book into a wonderful streaming series that everybody can watch and enjoy. 45:56.11 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb He. 46:00.30 Juliette Watt And somebody fabulous play me in it and book 2 is is the next thing on the horizon and we'll like that too. 46:05.33 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb Perfect. Can't wait. 46:08.56 bizzyweb In between the magic. It's available on Amazon if somebody's looking for you Juliet work where can they find you online. 46:14.56 Juliette Watt They can find me my website is Juliet Watt that's jul I e t t e w a t t onew word dot com and my ted x just put my name into the search google search Tedx Juliet whatt and that'll come up. And but everything is on my website and I do coaching for people with compassion fatigue and other troubles and and delighted to help as many as I can and I have helped quite a few to which I'm extremely proud of and that's and you know Facebook and all that business but but um 46:51.67 Dave Meyer_ BizzyWeb I Love it. That's marvelous. Yes I agree it. 46:53.32 bizzyweb I hateation. 46:54.20 Juliette Watt Sorry my my my opinion of social media is not very great it. Thank you Thank you? so. 47:00.56 bizzyweb Thank you Juliet Watt the the most interesting woman in the world.